2005 August

Sometimes we can make telepathic contact with animals (including
insects) and let them know our wishes; sometimes they will even listen
to us and cooperate! Try reading J. Allen Boone’s “Kinship with all
Life,” and/or Machaelle Small Wright’s “Behaving as if the God in All
Life Mattered” for nice examples of interspecies communion and
cooperation. And sometimes we just gotta kill ’em. But it never hurts
to try the other route first — as mentioned, sometimes it works :-)

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…Apparently, if you want to work with a whole
population of “trespassers,” you may have the best luck if you come
from your heart and visualize the deva of that population, perhaps
as a rat or wasp with a crown… then as clearly as possible, image
your request to the deva. Be open to what the deva has to say in
return. Sometimes a negotiation is in order. Sometimes works
wonders. (Sometimes not)
:-)

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…I have had good luck with ants, cockroaches and japanese
beetles — often less so with red squirrels, mice and rats, though
our terrier currently chases most of them away, so no worries :-)

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Having recently had a persistently-leaky roof on our Maine house, and
having strained my brain on trying to find the best way to fix it (not
being particularly handy myself, and the roofer who originally did our
whole roof four years ago having disappeared), I finally remembered
to “let go and let God” — and amid the relief and joy of relaxing
into that immense Love, immediately was given information on whom to contact and how: ask the old roofer’s wife if she knew anyone who would like the job. She did, and he came right over.

Not only did our roof get fixed immediately, but this same angel-
carpenter (who had just moved to Maine and who was just starting to
look for work) is now helping us transform the whole back end of our
house — putting in lovely 1830’s 8-over-12 windows and French doors
(which a friend had salvaged for me from a Greek-Revival house on
Martha’s Vineyard, and which had been sitting in my garage for four
years), new stairs, removing 25-year-old vinyl siding, repairing
corner-boards, sill-plates, re-clapboarding, insulating, drywalling,
etc. If we have time before Sept., we’ll even be putting in another
bathroom.

The whole process (while rather hard on my body, not really used to
construction-work for three weeks straight) has been profoundly
satisfying and moving; every little dream I ever had about improving
this house is unfolding Now. (I can’t explain it, but those new old
windows and doors and restored clapboards are so “right” they make me want to cry. I don’t think it is just construction fatigue! *lol*)

(By the way, our Maine house is thoroughly un-Vastu — doors to the
northwest, southwest, and southeast — and I couldn’t care less; it is
beautiful :-) )
 
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Just so! Perfection Now. There is nothing for me to “do”; it all IS done… :-)

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…Perfection is a priori :-)

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[Comment on Judy Stein post:
Clinging to faith no matter what and rejecting
 faith no matter what are both ways to avoid
 having to confront the possibility of being
 wrong.]

This moves my heart. :-)

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…there is not really “Being” and “stress,” for how could
there be anything other than Being (or what IS)? There appears rather
to be only Being which recognizes itself as such and Being which fails
to recognize itself as such, by holding some preconceived idea(s) of
what Being must be, and must not be. But by definition, not-Being does
not exist :-)

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Are you saying MMY should have treated them fairly?

…What about a possible turnaround — Have you always treated MMY fairly? Have you always treated yourself fairly?

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We check the bodymind for its feeling-response. If suffering persists, more work is indicated. If not, not :-)

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It would appear that to a unit of consciousness identifying itself
as infinitesimally small, the drop is an entire universe.

…Can we absolutely say that this is true only of the ocean, and not
of the drop?

It doesn’t show the waves.  One who looks at a drop and says, aha I
have the ocean in a drop thinks that the whole ocean is clear, when
instead the ocean is mostly dark and unknown. Only the surface might
really be anything like the drop.

Have we fully explored the depths of the drop?

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If the thought that serial killing was wrong was accompanied by the feeling of suffering, I would do inquiry on it, sure. And yes, I would undoubtedly find the “serial killer” in me, just as everything else exists in me… :-)

…Of course. Finding the “serial killer” in yourself will bring that
portion into full consciousness, removing its ability to “run” you
through your unconscious. It will have become integrated, healed,
made whole. You not only will cease entertaining that previously-
denied portion in a non-life-supporting manner; you will probably be
finding yourself consciously atoning for the acts which that denied
portion of yourself had done.

Often, a self-righteous judgement is a clue that we are projecting
some denied portion of Life outside ourselves so we can safely
condemn it. IMO this is what Jesus meant when saying “Judge not,
lest ye be judged.” In the deepest sense, when we judge we are
*always* judging ourselves. This keeps perpetuating the karma of dis-
integration, for essentially whatever we judge we later find
ourselves acting out, so we can understand it from the inside.

…[Byron Katie] is worth reading carefully.

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[Comment on:…You can’t just sit there all day say, “Oh yeah, I can see this guy’s faults in myself.]

If you can, you will perhaps be a better judge :-)

A judge’s job is to judge — he will probably be more just if he
acts from Wisdom and Understanding, rather than from self-righteous,
holier-than-thou denial. Actions have consequences; crime evokes
punishment or ideally atonement. One who administers the judgement
and sentencing can do so in compassion as well as (genuine)
righteousness.

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…It would be like an integrated adult, who has acknowledged and healed
their inner child, and is theoretically thus better able to deal with
the misdeeds of their actual child than would the unintegrated adult.

An example of the latter might be BushCo’s apparent approach to
terrorism (fighting it “out there” while actually inciting more of it
with the torture-and-terrorism tactics of their own unintegrated
shadow-side). This would apparently be self-righteous, holier-than-
thou denial and unintegrated judgement, and as you can see, the
results are less than ideal :-)

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Just to clarify a bit — in calling the cause of
suffering “stories,” I am not trying to denigrate the experience of
suffering itself, which is certainly real enough — merely
attempting to point out that the suffering arises from self-created
mental dramas which can be unraveled with a bit of inquiry/analysis
(perhaps akin to Patanjali’s “yoga is control of thought-waves of
the mind”).  Again, I heartily recommend reading Byron
Katie’s “Loving What Is” :-)

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I am no expert on Patanjali, so I will try not to go out on a (yoga-)
limb here, but if memory serves I believe I *have* seen a
commentator or two (in Isherwood’s version, “How to Know God,”
probably?) state that the vrittis, or thought-waves (*are* vrittis
identical to thought-waves? Perhaps thought-patterns is more
accurate), are indeed to be destroyed by introducing their
opposites — this would appear to be highly reminiscent of Byron
Katie’s method. And if BK’s technique is “psychology,” then
psychology has now embraced a very potent enlightenment technique.

…However, *I* would say rather that Life — the emptiful Whole — is what stands eternally and omnipresently revealed when we unravel our self-created mental dramas and thereby transcend suffering (while not transcending surfing). :-)

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I wonder, does *all* thought involve suffering? At certain times
(when life and death tremble together on the verge of THAT), that
understanding has indeed seemed self-evident, at least if we can
define a spectrum as “suffering light;” at other times, not so evident.

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…I should have said, “when life and death tremble on the edge of the Unmanifest,” as opposed to “the edge of THAT (which is indeed the Wholeness or Brahman of which you speak);” here one would be perceiving the thoughts emerging from the Unmanifest, and there is or can be something of a quality of extremely subtle suffering to them — not like the old story-bound suffering, but (as mentioned) like the “suffering” of light split into color :-)

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*lol* Who said Brahman was merely the silent kaivalya, nor that the subtle “suffering” of manifestation was other than Brahman? :-)

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…perhaps the “suffering” is merely the slight resistance encountered as one enters a denser medium :-)

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The same phenomenon [more clear spiritual experiences] has been remarked upon with ET encounters — though apparently with repeated exposure the person can move through their terror and into awakening :-)

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This is how Carla Gordan, Robin Carlson, the McGees, and
others worked for me — set up nice cross-currents to destroy the
samskaric grooves that had become complacent and accustomed to MMY :-)

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…The BK inquiry/analysis I refer to is simply to bring an easy counter-current to the one that the mind is *habitually* involved in, *totally* sold out to as *the* Reality (which belief is the root-cause of the suffering) — effectively dissolving it back into THAT

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Perhaps this is a good definition for *all* suffering — even the
suffering of our “stories.”  The pain involved in running them would
be Nature’s way of telling us we are entering a denser medium, in this
case that of the concrete mind (the believer in spacetime,
self/other) — one contrary to our evolution at this moment, which
would perhaps be into identifying with our pre-existent “Buddha-
nature” of eternal intuition.

This would *not* however appear to be the same phenomenon as the Great Immensity (“Brahman”) contracting into a point-source of utter bliss (“Krishna”), where there seems to be no suffering whatsoever…:-)

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…I would have to say No… more a case of witnessing and unraveling the bodymind’s samskaras/habit-patterns, which in being fixed and “grooved” tend to obscure our appreciation of THAT, or THAT’s appreciation of THATself through us… :-)

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Yes, with the proviso that it is (at some points) not at all “automatic,” nor will simple TM and “normal” activity necessarily do the trick. Sometimes we have to consciously face our pain, using all of our inner resources — not simply meditate away from it :-)

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Oh, I don’t; anything is possible; I am only speaking from personal
experience. If it comes to that, *anything* can work; divine grace
is *that* good. As Judy says, even bus-fumes can free us.

It was my experience that at a certain point, adherence to a “path”
was obstructing the realization of the perfection of what IS. Belief
in the “automatic” progress of TM-plus-activity had to go in favor
of bringing all my resources to bear on taking care of the pain in
front of me Now.

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[Comment on:…Are you Sokrates?]
 
Or maybe Pontius Pilate? :-)

[Comment on:…The bagpipers of Pontius Pilate?  :0 ]

If Pontius Pilate picked a meta-pile of pipers, how many piles of
pipers did Pontius Pilate pick? :-)

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…If you are feeling our prickles for us, perhaps you *are* able to be us, and you *do* have an idea of what we really don’t want to look at :-)

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“The proof [i.e., test] of the pudding is in the eating,” meaning we can only know something by actually trying it :-)

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You are course free to do whatever you like; I am not here to try to
run your life for you. If you are asking what *I* would do, then I
suppose if I were hearing the same diagnosis over time from a number
of people whom I considered to be enlightened, and if I considered
myself to be in ignorance, I believe I would try to be open to what
they were attempting to awaken in me — and not merely continue to
lose myself into the inevitable pain and resistance their diagnosis brought up.  :-)

…So you are really saying you are feeling pricked *by* us, as opposed
to how prickly this topic seems to make us? I can only speak for
myself, but I am not attempting to prick you, only to hold a mirror
up to your primordial splendor :-)

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We could always throw in the occasional “Hallelujah!” and “a-MEN!”

:-)

Isn’t it, though? (Come to that, I am not even trying to run my own
life for me!) :-D

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I am the pudding; you are the pudding; all this is the pudding, the pudding alone IS.

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It’s probably hard to gauge the spatiotemporal flux with any accuracy when you are a quantum packet :-)

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Is that a quote from a sci-fi story about a mega-prayer-wheel machine,
or some machine generating all the names of God and thereby bringing an end to creation?

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Googled on that. Nine Billion Names of God, by Arthur C. Clarke. Many thanks! Great story. :-)

…Yes! Many thanks; I had forgotten that great story lo these many years :-)

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One may be asleep, one may be awake …
what difference to Sparaig does either make? :-)

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Speaking for myself alone, there is *always* more waking up to do :-)

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…so many people here are daring to let go and BE :-)

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Truth be told, I *don’t* really have a life of my own anymore, and that is perfectly OK with me. I do find communing with others here to be highly enjoyable :-)

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Of what import is the thin rind of an orange compared to the bounty of its sweet, sweet juice? Indeed, even the rind imparts its zest :-)

…Not that I have noticed; rind is really just juice that thinks it is congealed :-)

…Well, the analogy breaks down a bit even with an ordinary orange :-)

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One’s actions (being essentially automatic) may not change overmuch
when one makes a shift, but one’s appreciation of them, their
recipients,  and their milieu may increase exponentially :-)

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It sounds as if your life-story at the moment is very painful; you have
my deepest and warmest sympathies. Ill health, deep grief and the
feeling of having lost one’s way must be very difficult indeed.

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I have read that 80 to 90 percent of Israel’s population is
Ashkenazi, who are thought to be caucasoid descendants of the
eastern-European Khazars, who never lived in the Near- or Middle-East, and who converted to Judaism as late as the 7th or 8th century
CE. Only the remaining 10 to 20 percent are Sephardic, who actually *did* originate in or near the region now known as Israel, and who
(I have read) are currently treated as distinctly second-class citizens in Israel.

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I love the way you put ignorance in quotes here… And wonder what
would happen if one ceased to label these specific feelings
as “ignorance” or “unpleasant” and instead decided to try on the story
that they are simply unfamiliar or mislabeled manifestations of “God”
or bliss, while we merely sat with them, and allowed them to breathe
(i.e. imagined our nose to be where they are and that they were
actually breathing for us), resting easily into them, while being
narrowly focussed into whatever portion of our body they happened to
be in *this* moment…
:-)

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…I admit it’s harder to describe than it is to practice — MMY’s “feeling the body” is perhaps a simpler way to describe it; “rebirthing” is another.

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So we have at least a couple of approaches, *if* we are getting tired
of the same old repetitive soap-opera (and if we are not, or don’t see
it that way, then we may of course simply disregard all of this) —

One, by noticing that the soap-opera is indeed simply a soap-opera,
that is, a dramatic mental-emotional “script” or story — and Byron
Katie’s work beautifully “deconstructs” suffering from this angle;

And/or Two, by using breath and innocent attention to notice that the
bodily sensations or feelings we have been labelling “suffering”
or “ignorance” are indeed on closer look simply love and bliss,
reintegrating these “exiled” or “rejected” portions of ourselves into
our wholeness.

Yet another way, if we are feeling like or identifying with the small-
self sufferer, is to remember or affirm our loving relationship to our
large-Self divinity, and to surrender into Him and/or Her.

This way and the second way are complementary — we may either find
the small-self sufferer “inside” us, as a pinpoint of discomfort in
the body, and direct loving attention to this “child-self” of ours,
and/or we may find the large-self Lover “outside” or “around” us, as
larger than we are, and relax into Him or Her or Us.
:-)

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I wouldn’t think most “off the program” types would have enough
investment in the TMO to be threatened by Amma, unless your definition of “off the program” differs from mine  :-)

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One apparently cannot determine the state of consciousness of
another from their actions; probably given the observer/observed
uncertainty one can never adequately determine the state of
consciousness of another, if one is not functioning at least from
Brahman and willing to completely “be” the other, or know the other
as oneself. Even in Unity there is room for inaccuracy, as one is in
U.C. still potentially perceiving from the POV of an unchallenged
or “unslain” small-self.

Only in Brahman is one aware of the spatio-temporal (“impermanent”)
and egoic nature of all the standard seven SoC (and thus sees that
there is no real difference between “ignorance” and “enlightenment”), and even in Brahman one is or may be functioning through a “resurrected” small-self, which itself still may be quite capable of inaccurate perception-filters and so on.  :-)
 
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Yes, there is still potentially a duality in Unity. The Unity is (or
can be) strictly between the perceiver and the specific object of
perception, with the surrounding ambience not being particuarly
enlivened or recognized. Hence the four phrases of Mahavakya: I am
THAT (C.C.), Thou art THAT (G.C.), All this is THAT (U.C.), and
finally THAT ALONE IS (Brahman).

To use my old Purusha-Prakriti model, in U.C. Purusha has descended
as far down through the (cosmic) body as the Solar Plexus (where the
small “I” hangs out), and Prakriti has ascended up through the body
to the same spot, but as they have not yet overlapped, the small “I”
still subtly thinks it exists and is holding everything together; is
actually experiencing these things :-)

…Brahman is not really a specific state of consciousness like
the standard seven; it is merely perfection now. To use the above
model, the time-space existence of or identification through the
small self is finally “extinguished” as Purusha and Prakriti
overlap, so that “Brahman” is neither absolute nor relative, nor
both together, nor neither, and so on. There can be perception of
(or via) Unity, G.C., or C.C., or waking, or dreaming, or sleeping,
or perhaps more accurately all of these will be going on
simultaneously, and where one “is” is simply a question of focus in
this moment — on which aspect of oneself one is attending to and
through. In Brahman, the double-cone of consciousness has realized
itself alone, and that all the beloved states of consciousness are
merely conic sections of itself: point (sleep), line (dream), plane
(waking), circle (TC), ellipse (CC), parabola (GC), hyperbola (UC).

…you can “experience” Unity, but you cannot “experience”
Brahman — Brahman experiences you :-)

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In Brahman, the double-cone of consciousness has realized
 itself alone, and that all the beloved states of consciousness are
 merely conic sections of itself: point (sleep), line (dream), plane
 (waking),

correction — this waking-state form is more accurately an “X” shape
(vertical cross-section through the center of the cone), rather than a
simple plane :-)

 circle (TC), ellipse (CC), parabola (GC), hyperbola (UC).

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The point is a horizontal plane through the center; the line is a
diagonal plane through the center tangential to one edge; the X is
the vertical cross-section. The “higher” states or planes intersect
the cone off-center, above and/or below the center-point: Circle as
eccentric horizontal plane, ellipse as an eccentric horizontal
tilted slightly into diagonal, parabola as an eccentric diagonal
parallel to an edge, and the hyperbola as an eccentric vertical :-)
…Google on conic sections (“images”) :-)

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…I would say offhand that the double cone is actually
the central core of a torus (the Hiranyagarbha-field), which in turn
is one of the countless “Krishna-bubbles” or Universes, and so on…:-)

The play of the three gunas is clearer when we see it as a full-
fledged torus rather than as merely the central core. If (for
example) the energy is moving upward through the core, and out the
north pole and down around the torus-bubble, and then collapsing in
at the south pole to form a singularity at the core’s center, we
could ascribe the coalescing, centripetal energy at the south-pole
to Vishnu (originally probably Indra), the rotating, radiating
energy at the singularity to Brahma, and the dispersing,
centtrifugal energy at the north-pole to Shiva (originally Rudra).
And yet nothing ever “happens” from the vantage-point of the Brahman-torus as a whole :-)
 
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…Kind of makes me wish I had gone to MIU; this analogy just came to
me a few years ago when I was thinking about the relationship
between Brahman and the classic seven states of consciousness :-)

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He [Itzhak Bentov] used the double-cone analogy? I didn’t recall that — will have to re-read it; I do remember it was a great book. I met “Ben” Bentov at Livingston Manor on a sidhis-prep course around 1977 or ’78 — was most impressed with him and his “experiences.” Fascinating fellow; you wanna talk about a guy with innumerable stories! :-)

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Yes, I “recall” learning a lot of this stuff amongst the Pythagoreans
and Neoplatonists, but don’t recall if I’ve read Plato’s Republic.
Many thanks, Vaj; I will keep my eyes open for it :-)

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Yes, Jesus would probably agree — “by their fruits ye shall know them”

…I can only say the effect MMY had on me was perfect, mindblowing, exactly what I needed though certainly not what I had thought I wanted :-)

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It sounds as if what MMY is calling “coherence” I would call “perfection” — but I am not clear on any real distinction between UC and BC as given by (you by) MMY above.

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Perhaps we could say Unity ripens the intimate identity between
perceiver and the perceived, while allowing the essential I-thou
relationship to remain relatively intact at the subtlest levels,
while BC destroys all such relationships and indeed every opposite
or duality into utter paradox, sheer quantum reality. While in Unity one has distinctly “progressed” into this “exalted state,” in
Brahman one has attained exactly nothing but one’s own annihilation into the immediately obvious but extremely slippery pre-existent emptiful ordinariness :-)

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Interesting! I have never seen the hiranyagarbha-torus as containing
those “nests” of orbital harmonics — though I have seen and heard
the planetary angels singing the “music of the spheres” for the
solar system, a good bit earlier

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[Comment on:…You’re really attached to the notion of Brahman.]

Could be. You are seeing a very small, specific, and rather concentrated part of me here. When I am not talking to you guys, none of this material exists for me at all. That’s part of the reason I like talking with you all so much. I will say this, anyhow — I am not particularly attached to the idea of being perceived as unattached, so think of me what you will :-)

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…It takes One to know One  :-)

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It seems to me that all *anyone* does who speaks of the unspeakable, is “reifying some errant conceptuality,” and yet I enjoyed reading of “reifications” like these when I thought myself on a path, and I enjoy playing with these “reifications” now when there is evidently no path. No artist’s self-portrait is going to be as alive as he is, nor is it going to please every critic, but so what? We still do what we do. :-)

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Perhaps that will be *your* job, then — studying and referencing the various scriptures has no real draw for me at the moment :-)

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Yes, none of this stuff is particularly undo-able if/when
appropriate — I didn’t mean to imply that it was — but IMO neither is any of it a criterion for anyone’s particular embodiment of Wholeness, which is a priori and dependent upon nothing whatsoever.

:-)

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And I am sorry if my analogy appeared to denigrate any of the states of consciousness — they are all good :-)

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Terrorism is a big bad boogey-man for you isn’t it…? You ever
think to look at the humbug behind the curtain running that great and terrible Oz-ama? :-)

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One will certainly experience all the siddhis one desires — but if one is waiting for demonstration of a specific siddhi before one
acknowledges or surrenders into wholeness, then one will probably be waiting forever, still attached to the golden chain of percept or concept. Wholeness is a priori. :-)

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…I have generally preferred a matrix of 12 (13) or 16 (17) myself :-)

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The times the sidhis have really impressed me were outside of Sidhis
practice, occurring as a spontaneous expression of desire, and
serving — as Robert Gimbel accurately says — to structure more
intimacy, more surrender, and more healing :-)

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…”If you want to *see* a miracle, boy, then *be* the miracle” — Morgan Freeman as God in “Bruce Almighty”

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On the physical plane, any given sphere contains 13 smaller close-packed spheres of equal size: 12 arranged in a Cuboctahedron or
Vector-equilibrium-matrix pattern around a central 13th: Brahma/Aditi and His/Her 12 rays or Adityas. (Aligning these with
the zodiacal 12, we may also find four more sensitive points at the solstices and equinoxes.) These 13 (or 17) pair up and align along
the spine to form nine major chakras, or dimension-gates, in a given “body”. Perhaps these align one way or another with MMY’s 10
dimensions; I don’t know, and don’t have much curiosity about it ATM. While this system has tremendous potential for awakening and
connecting subtle energies, from another angle it’s all just another self-portrait or fairy-tale, anyhow :-)

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Titles? We don’t need no stinkin’ titles!

(For that matter, we don’t need no stinkin’ badges either) :-)

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For all I know, neither Moses nor Thomas really “existed.” I *have* seen that miracles can occur with doubters *if* their hearts are
deep-down open to grace, or malleable to surrender (unity), or innocent — however we wish to put it. If they have a whole lot
invested in the miracle’s not happening, the miracle probably won’t happen — this too is grace :-)

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Grace :-)

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“Miracles” are the result of quickening, or heightened Flow;
heightened Flow occurs (only) where there is receptivity; there is
nothing *I* can do about it either way except perhaps to attempt to
tickle the other into relaxing his/her guard (or into surrendering)
enough to allow perception of and resonance with the heightened Flow. The deepseated free will of the other shall always prevail, as it should. Without receptivity, there is no Flow.

Ideally there must be a good connection or identity between Wholeness and me; between me and the other (in both of our consciousnesses); and thence between the other and Wholeness, precipitating the quickening or miracle in the other’s perception. When the other and I are in tune, this sort of thing happens so regularly it can scarcely be called a miracle any more. But again, *I* don’t do it, any more than I do anything. It just gets done :-)
 
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I am speaking mostly of healings, consciousness-shifts and the like — in which the observer/healee has a very important part to play.
Other sidhis, like weather-changing, appear to depend much less on whoever is observing, probably because the effects are less intimate :-)

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You have my deep, deep sympathies, my friend. Watching my father die was one of the toughest things I’ve ever undergone, far harder than nearly dying myself. As Pete says, it rips your heart wide open, burning off everything but intense, raw love.

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Agreed, this is a great game [leela] and full of valuable insights :-)

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*lol* I tend to agree with you, except when the “siddhi” specifically involves another’s healing. Then, though *we* may seethat the healing *has* occurred, the end-result is predominantly still up to the other, as it so intimately involves *their* reality they are upholding. So perhaps we are saying the same thing — the ability to see and recognize the healing depends very much on the consciousness of the viewers :-)

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In other words, the TMO has shifted from being a “Tantric” movement to being a “Vedic” movement, or from anti-establishment mysticism to
pro-establishment religiosity …. This seems to be the standard path of pretty much every spiritual impulse over time, doesn’t it?
It would seem that maybe the TMO was just a little quicker than most, and we have been blessed to see the whole life-cycle :-)

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One of the aspects of lineage and space-time transcendence shows us
that we are in essence the entire line of our own masters; they are
ongoing aspects and higher octaves of ourself; as we take a
particular initiation, they take a corresponding initiation; indeed
we see them as “more enlightened” or “mature” than we are as a
matter of personal choice as to which chords of ourself we call into
focus.

Bentov also mentioned something like this BTW on that Sidhis-prep
course — that he saw the Masters all strung together, skewered with
a light-ray through their hearts “like a shishkebab.” :-) Or it
might look more like bodies sitting one atop another like a totem-
pole, but the concept appears to be much the same :-)
 
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Actually, IME some rocks contain a great deal of enlightenment and are delighted to exchange useful information :-)

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Remembering that everything is conscious, and so — much as we spoke of with insects, birds and the like — rocks too are aware and often happy to commune. Simply being in the heart and asking if the rock has anything to share, and then resting/feeling the bodymind’s response, may at the right moment work wonders :-)

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[Jack Russell Terriers are]…Incredibly smart with a strong sense of self, yeah :-)

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Cafe Entree is one of our favorites … :-)

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Ah, but if S/H/We weren’t watching, nothing would happen :-)

…Because when there is no watcher/watchee, nothing happens :-)

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Stepping outside the three gunas — so that Self (observer) and All-that-is are (observed) not different — is analogous to looking at
the torus from outside, and seeing Vishnu coalesce from the outer shell into the base of the inner double-cone (as Sattva); Brahma
rotate as the singularity at the center of the double-cone (as Rajas); and Shiva disperse at the top of the double-cone outwards
into the outer shell (as Tamas) — and yet, because one is no longer involved in the movie(s) within this Brahman-torus, nothing actually happens; the whole thing is in stasis.

This might be akin to the Work of Byron Katie, wherein when we inquire into the stories of our suffering, we may realize that we have been projecting all of it — resolving it back into the radiant clarity and loving fullness of our own emptiful not-happening  :-)

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YES, well put — the Wholeness rapidly vacillating or trembling between Life and Death :-)

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[Comment on:…So why does Vishnu blend with Brahma, and Brahma blend with Shiva, but Shiva and Vishnu are absolutely distinct from one another?]

Great question! I used to ask this about Sattva and Tamas, which were always held to be total opposites and unmixable. I never really got this until seeing their polar functions in the Torus — and understanding them as analogous to magnetic poles does help. Even if we see Sattva in its conventional sense as Light and Tamas as Dark,
though, it really does make sense. However, it’s interesting that Siva/Tamas/the Black Hole is (from the point of view outside the Torus anyhow) actually dispersing outward, rather than spiraling inward, and Vishnu/Sattva/the White Hole is spiraling inward, rather than dispersing outward…

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Perhaps a real Master is probably *not* someone who or something which will comfort us with appealing to our sensibilities or predilection, or at least not beyond lulling us just enough to let our guard down for the *killing blow* of Grace :-)

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Yes, it would appear to correlate to that golden quality of No-space, No-time identity with the “Solar Angel” which one might take to be Brahma — incidentally, Bentov also spoke of this fusion with one’s Solar Angel on that same Sidhis-prep course, perhaps a year or so before I came across the phenomenon:-)

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The “we” who dies into Brahman actually appears to *be* the Solar Angel, or the Witness, or the I AM idea of limiting individuation;
the source of divine love and wisdom appears to be that same Solar Angel resurrected into acknowledgment its true (emptiful) relationship with the Wholeness, or Wholeness acknowledging its ability to contract into a Krishna-point of infinite bliss as limitless individuation; THAT AM I  :-)

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I don’t know (or care) who “this person” is, but my impression would be that separation of samsaric patterns from nirvanic ones could easily perpetuate ignorance, as the body-knowing is that samsara is nirvana, and nirvana is samsara.

Yes, thinking alone will not sustain awakening — it is an Understanding of the whole body-mind :-)

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On the other hand, there are clearly many other valid understandings embracing separation or distinction between nirvana and samsara, so who am I to pontificate; Wholeness is truly indescribable (or is it?) :-)

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Yes. It would appear that Wholeness is the YES to whatever we
(meaning the consensus of all the various conscious (and sub- and superconscious) elements in the bodymind) ask of (or expect from, or attend to in) Life, with all of the other unasked-for or unattended-to elements still present, but relegated more to the background. It would seem that movement, Space-time, is merely the appearance of
these various YES-crystallizations from Wholeness in a sequence of response to the ego’s desire, like the various bulbs in an old-fashioned movie marquee, flicking on and off in sequence to give the appearance of a singe bulb in motion. But in truth there may be a great many bulbs, all simultaneously present, but with only one or two lit at a given moment of attention :-)

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Amen. Does one who takes righteous glee in scapegoating and in “final solutions” really benefit from yagyas, and if so, how?

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There’s no place like OMmmmm….

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[‘Being There’ with Peter Sellers] I like to watch :-)

You may have missed the last scene in which he was walking on water, IIRC …:-)

…the water showed both realities. I prefer the ambiguity of Chauncy-as-mirror :-)

…Yes, a truly humble innocent.

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