2007 July

…some scholars have hypothesized that the Biblical stories of
Exodus etc. are (heavily edited and re-edited) accounts of
a “heretical” Egyptian sect that after much civil strife and violence
broke away to worship (and sacrifice) the Ram (Aries) instead of
the “Golden Calf” or Bull (Taurus), not long after Aries replaced
Taurus on the equinoctial cusp, and further equated “Moses” (Egyptian
for “heir,” as Thothmosis, Ramoses, Ahmose, etc.) with Akhenaten, the
heretically monotheistic would-be Pharaoh who led his people into
exile.

Perhaps interestingly, I encountered all this some years after
cognizing/creating/remembering an “Eternal” (i.e., stable, non-
precessing) zodiacal/tarot/chakra system *not* in lockstep with the
actual constellations, and placing the Spring Equinox eternally
between Aries and Taurus. This would now appear *perhaps* to be the primordial Egyptian system which was supplanted by the time-bound, ever-precessing system initiated by Moses/Akhenaten….

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“Ahh, welcome to Fairfield, Nablusos! It’s good to see another
dedicated follower of Maharishi here. Before we give you your Dome
badge, let’s just check your file … Hmmm. It says here you’re a TM
teacher, a representative of Maharishi and his knowledge, yet you’ve
gone on record as recently as last week publically espousing the
spiritual teachings of someone else…. Well, we’re reasonable people
here. Please obtain references from three Governors in good standing,
and sign this paper disavowing all future support of this Benjamin
Creme and his ‘Maitreya’, or…NO DOME FOR YOU!”

:-)

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I am *very* happy with the way Fairfield has been evolving; it feels
more and more free, spontaneous, conscious and loving — as if large
numbers of people are freeing themselves of the fear-filled belief
that they must pretend to be someone they are not in order to realize
the Self. If their further growth entails exploring other avenues of
spiritual inquiry, great! The more the merrier. Fairfield is indeed
enriched by all the new currents of spirituality here.

I have nothing but gratitude for the TMO however; they are doing
their thing, and it’s a very good thing indeed for those who wish to
avail themselves of it. My post was only intended to point out the
irony that Nablusos is apparently advocating the continued monopoly
of an exclusive club that he himself would not be allowed to join :-)

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“The world is as you are” — You Know Who :-)

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…personally, I think *everyone* is “on the same team,” whether
they know it or not. I am just saying that as far as the TMO here in
FF is concerned, if you’re a TM Teacher advocating *any* spiritual
teaching other than MMY’s, you are not welcome in the Dome. And
again, I have no problem with that; they have a perfect right to
operate in any way they please.

…Again, at present *you are not welcome in the Dome* if you are a TM
Teacher publicly advocating any teaching other than MMY’s — whether
you or I think they are “on the same team” or not is not relevant to
the badge-keepers :-)
 
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…Ahh, good! So now perhaps you can see why so many TM-ers have left the TMO — like you, they were drawn to appreciate avenues of spiritual inquiry other than MMY himself, and thus were no longer allowed to attend the Domes.

…I am just pointing out that according to the current stance of the TMO, Benjamin Creme is not MMY, and is not a follower of MMY, ergo he is “other than MMY.”

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They believe they are thinking/seeing in “straight lines,” but
their interior space appears to be automatically curved into pre-set
denial patterns, so that their thoughts automatically “warp off” to
either side to avoid perceiving the self-evident Truth directly in
front of them. :-)

…Of course, by this same token, I have no doubt whatsoever that I have similar “blind spots” or vasana warp-patterns I am as yet unaware of! Thank God we multiplied ourself so we can scratch each others’ backs! Ook, ook! :-)

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I couldn’t care less one way or the other about prosperity fences or what MMY says about them. As I pointed out earlier, I just bought a house in FF with a SOUTH DOOR. The horror! :-)

…On the other hand, if someone with such a fence *does* believe deeply in their properties, I suspect they will warp their reality fields in such a way as to manifest a fulfillment of their beliefs, as we all do with one thing or another :-)

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I first noticed the blind-spot phenomenon when I was attempting
to point out the self-evident and was watching the apparently willful
(but actually unconscious) machinations of the personality in
maintaining ignorance, but I am not particularly basing my current
observation that you (and we all) have blind spots on my
understanding of the self.

I am basing it on the fact that –to borrow a nice term from Barry —
where blind spots are involved, there is no *equanimity*; one is
coming from a place of ungrounded attack. What the critic tends to
miss IMO is that Judy and I are generally *not* defending MMY and the
TMO; we’re just pointing out *that the critic is attacking in an
unbalanced manner*. Again, you, Curtis, have noted that you cut slack
for Thai beliefs — that is, you have equanimity there, more than you
do for TM beliefs. That’s certainly understandable; you used to
identify with TM beliefs; there’s a residue there.

Personally, I’ve noticed that much if not all of my suffering — my
reactive residue — has come from places where I falsely assumed
responsibility for something, identified with something that was
actually not my business. I used to actually feel pain, for example,
when driving through my neighborhood and seeing a downright ugly
house. How could the architect be so stupid as to design such a God-
awful monstrosity, and the home-owner so blind as to choose it, etc.,
etc.? I finally realized *I am not responsible for the classically
aesthetic perfection of my neighborhood* — it is what it is, period.
Same for BushCo and so on. What a relief!

I’d write more, but my wife really wants to go out for brunch *now*
so.. to be continued! :-)

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(OK, that was quite a meal — if anyone should decide to visit
Portland, Maine, I’d recommend Bintliff’s for brunch! All their meals
are works of art, and their raspberry almond pancakes with maple
syrup are quite a treat! :-) )

Anyhow, after I gave up wishing the neighborhood architecture were
different, I became free to appreciate it as it is, and lately I’ve
seen the creator’s intent, the perfect Love, that actually resides
even in an “ugly” house. Now I am still undertaking projects to
beautify the architecture of my hometown, but I’m not coming from a
place of anger and suffering, of denial of the perfection of what is.
It IS perfect, and I’m happy to do my small part to expand the
perfection still more :-)

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Where are you getting that I am calling me enlightened and you
ignorant, Curtis? When I first noticed the blind-spot phenomenon it
was when I was trying to point out the self-evident perfection *to
someone who was not Curtis*. I have since then noticed the blind-spot phenomenon *in myself*. Does this make me ignorant? Well, it means I have blind-spots, as (as far as I can tell) we all do. Period. Overall “enlightenment” or “ignorance” — however we may define them or refuse their meaningfulness — and personally, I have no problem with refusing to make any distinction between “enlightenment” and “ignorance” — *are not the issue here.*

…FWIW I kind of saw Judy as a “logic-piranha” when I first ran into her and she shredded the nice anti-TM arguments I had clothed my resentment with, leaving me bare-boned, but as I saw where she was coming from, and healed the core discontents she revealed, I came to see her beautiful clarity and balance more and more deeply, and now I am in total awe of the divine grace manifesting in Her presence.

…Well, I found that *my* important content was actually just badly-
fitting drapery around a core of discontent. YMMV, of course.

…how on earth could we ever *know* whether what you say is true or not, except for each of us individually, in this moment, as a personal truth? What I am hearing as a subtext is, “I, Curtis, know better than MMY does about my own state(s) of consciousness.” And personally, I, Rory, say — good for you! That’s what self-reference (i.e. “Brahman”) is all about! But the whole “misapplied an ancient framework … that we understand better through modern psychology…” As Borat would say, “Not so much” — that part just feels like a socially-acceptable (but unprovable) way to say what I think (and hope) I *hear* you really saying above.

…*lol* I can see how this would not be fun — but my point is not that
you are wrong, it is that you are making baseless — i.e. seemingly
logical but actually logically unprovable — attacks, or criticisms,
if you prefer: Sweeping generalizations that hold no water, but are
actually (I hope and believe) masking or clothing some very real
feelings underneath. (Otherwise, you’re just wasting yours and
everyone’s time, and I don’t really think that’s possible.) I am not
trying to discount your arguments by saying there’s an emotional core
underneath; I am discounting your arguments as too sweeping and
asking you to look at the feeling-level motivation behind them.
There’s really good stuff there, inside the blind-spot.

…I have already told you that this is essentially true; I am responding to you, “creating” you, *on the basis of my memory* and of my own blind-spots. I do not consider this to be a “poopy-pants” statement, because I do not consider it to be an insult to state that my so-called logical statements repose upon subtler feelings. I *have* found that as my understanding of my own subtle underlying feelings clarifies, then my thinking also clarifies. Again, YMMV.

…Yes, you do think [MMY] is wrong, and that you know better, and I am absolutely certain that you are right; that that is true. Our conceptual understanding/framework of what MMY has said is absolutely false. There’s a simpler truth you have been articulating, where “enlightenment” and “ignorance” are utterly irrelevant, and “spiritual experience” itself is irrelevant, and your own self knows your own self best, and so on. These are some of the keynotes of “Brahman,” which he also has talked about, as much as one can talk about the utterly indescribable :-)

…Perhaps you are less emotionally-tinted than I; my whole world
shattered into grief and rage when — despite the wowzer experiences
MMY was showing me on the Science and Veda course — I realized I had all along been following a false Messiah; that he was no “higher” than I! :-) For me this was a huge piece of the puzzle — not the *whole* puzzle, but a *huge* piece of it.

…Yes. I hear you — I used to be plagued by TMO true-believers after I
left the TMO, until I cleared the residues of my own TM doubts. For
years afterward I was still plagued by other evangelical
fundamentalists, until I cleared most of my “inner fundamentalist.”
My world is definitely as I am! (YMMV, of course.)

…And I with you. FWIW, to me you are showing many of the earmarks
of “Brahman” — but I really couldn’t care less, and I suspect you
probably couldn’t either. Great joke, isn’t it?!

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…I am not asking you to cut MMY and his ideas any more slack than you would cut anyone else; do you think *I* do?
I’ve already pointed many areas in which I overtly do *not* currently
give those ideas much credence: TM program, Stapathya Veda, Ayurveda, Jyotish. The only aspect I *do* currently give much credence to, is Self as Being, and that’s an experiential thing, not an idea per se.

I am only pointing out, as I did in my email response to you (which
you apparently failed to grasp), that you actually do not show
equanimity here; you are *not* treating him as you would “an ordinary
truck driver,” for you are *still criticising him after 30 years*! I
am not defending MMY here — those are *not our only two choices* —
attack him or defend him. There is a third choice, where he simply
doesn’t matter to us, is not something that riles us up enough to
criticise. For some reason, you still find him irritating enough to
write about, in pretty much the same words, over and over and over
again. What is the seed of your discontent?

…Attack, criticism, call it what you will — a surprisingly large
expenditure of energy for a guy who claims to have left MMY and the
movement 30 years ago, don’t you think? It looks to me as if he is
still very much on your back; very much “special” to you.

…Then why spend 30 years fighting them? That’s all I’m asking. I am
not defending them; I find them as indefensible as your criticisms :-)

…To me it is *not* a personal issue of “MMY deserving our respect.” God knows, I have criticised him and his ideas *plenty* in my day. I’m just saying you appear to be very hung up on MMY, that’s all.

…I have never implied that “balance includes giving MMY or his ideas
deference.” Balance means giving statements that manifest personal
integrity, as opposed to giving wildly sweeping inaccuracies which
are unsupportable or easily picked apart. A relatively unbalanced
example might be my saying something like “MMY’s stapathya veda is
rampant foolishness designed only to rake in yet more money from his
easily-gulled followers,” as opposed to a more balanced “I have
walked through and felt out a stapathya-veda house or two and —
aside from the typical new-house spaciousness — perceived nothing
particularly special about them. I personally prefer a good Victorian
house, south door and all, which shows a quality of material and
craftsmanship essentially unmatchable today, and is far more
affordable,” — which latter is actually my current experience and
stance, subject of course, and always, to change.

Attack and deference are not our only two choices. There is a third —
  integrity, equanimity.

As for the rest, I’ll just reiterate that I am not saying you guys
are “damaged” — just that you and Vaj (Curtis less so) seem self-
condemned to repeat yourselves over and over, making broad, sweeping (and easily disputed) statements without ever getting to your personal integrity, to your undisputable personal experience, and to the core of your discontent, where IME great treasure lies.

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Yes, I feel the same way. It’s been a great pleasure; these
conversations with you and with Barry have made me look more closely at a lot of things, particularly the issue of balance and integrity. On further reflection, I see that from another angle I am yet again advocating the inward movement of transcendence,  — pulling back from our projected discontents “out there” to their inward core “in here;” i/o/w moving from victimization and addiction to empowerment and sobriety. One of my favorite modern psychologist/therapists, by the way, is one that Tom T. introduced me to — Anne Wilson Schaef. Her books, “When Society Becomes an Addict” and especially “Escape From Intimacy: The Pseudo-Relationship Addictions – Untangling the “Love” Addictions, Sex, Romance, Relationships,” beautifully unfolded the dynamics of Brahman as sobriety, without ever mentioning Brahman :-)

Happy Independence Day!

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How about a wrathful-deity Dharmapala? Not all Bodhisattvas are sugary sweet, you know.

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It [ :-) ] was actually your original face (before your parents were born?), but here’s another one, specially from me :-)

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…I already tried to do you a favor, to show you how to “fight fair” and make statements with personal integrity, and thus to avoid making an ass of youself. I’ve already said that I don’t have Judy’s patience or her tolerance for abuse, and I’m not going to go rummaging through the archives to bolster an obvious point, all the while ignoring your abuse — calling my attempts to help “cowardly” and “schoolyard bullying,” etc. To put it bluntly, I love you, but you’re thinking and talking like a drunk, and I just don’t have the time to waste arguing with a drunk. I’ve already shown you the difference between a relatively balanced and an unbalanced statement. If that’s not good enough for you, so be it.

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HA! No smiley face for you!

Just kidding :-)

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…I’ve apparently given you more of my attention than you merit already.

:-)

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…I have no problem with Geezer’s portraying me as a high-handed, arrogant megalomaniac; I doubtless possess those qualities in abundance. :-)

I’m actually rather glad he brought up my old site —  when I first
joined FFL, everyone had a chance to read it (if they wished) and
uunderstand better where I was coming from. It is many years out of
date now, however, and over the years (even before joining FFL) I’ve
occasionally considered removing it, as I’ve come to value simplicity
and ordinariness more and more, but each time someone has written me to thank me for writing it, so with some ambivalence I have let it stand. It is in essence a letter to some of my past selves, some of whom would have *loved* to read it! Perhaps someday I’ll update it to reflect more of my current thinking … or perhaps not. :-)

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Comment from geezerfreak: And here’s Rory riffing on his own name:

 “My name embraces primarily the Red, but also the Yellow and the
Violet Rays.
 
In my own Taurus-Equinox system, my natal Sun is in the Sun’s own (yellow) duodecile within (Mars’s) Aries — the Red:Yellow Solar Angel of the Lion, for which Rory itself is a valid mantra — while Mars is in Mars’s own (red) duodecile of Aquarius, the Violet Smith and Grail-bearer. And indeed, Goff means not only “the Red” (from Welsh Goch), but also (as Welsh Gof) means “the Smith;” Gofannon is the Celtic Smith-God who brews the Ale of Immortality and serves it to the other Gods.
The Smith is the Lord of the Violet Ray of Alchemy: the Aquarian Ray overseeing the next 2,160 years, earth’s Aquarian Age.
The Violet Smith sires his complementary opposite, the Yellow (Solar) Creator, as darkest lead is alchemically transmuted to brightest gold.

 The Oxford English Dictionary tells us that Rory also means (or once meant) “dewy,” from the Latin ros, roris, meaning “dew, moisture, water, teardrop.” Dew is traditionally the most sacred of fluids, symbolizing the light of dawn, spiritual refreshment, blessing, illumination, resurrection, and — as amrit or ambrosia — immortality. This dew of Solar Enlightenment and Immortality is identical to the Ale of Immortality brewed by Gofannon the Smith (father of the Solar Creator); does dew also relate to Mars or Rudra? Yes! As Mars/Rudra governs the two hours before dawn when the dew falls, we can say that dewdrops are the tears of Rudra. Rudra’s tears are well-known in Vedic mythology. The Utrasum Bead Tree (Elaiocarpus Ganitrus Roxb.)
yields beads known as Rudraksha or “Rudra’s tears” which are particularly sacred and powerful when blessed and worn as a rosary by a devotee of Rudra/Shiva, the Lord of Transcendence. It is my earnest desire that these papers illuminate, inspire, and rejuvenate you as the sacred dew! I hope and pray that the Rorian Tradition will serve you as a rosary of Rudraksha beads, heightening your blissful enjoyment of your holy immortality, and deepening your understanding that you walk this earth as divinity incarnate.

 Finally, Rory also means “noisy and boisterous,” as well as “loud
or gaudy in color.” My relatives will gladly testify to my embodiment of the former traits since early childhood; it is not for nothing that Rudra means the Roarer or the Howler! Traditionally, the Red Ray of the Will expresses the Atmic Plane of Blissful Vibration, Magical Laughter or “Noise;” see the last two charts in The Days of the Week, their Planets, and the Chakras. And as for loud or gaudy colors? Since gaudy comes from the Latin meaning “joyful,” I will gladly accept these traits as well — the dew joyously catches the Sun and flashes the pure colors of the spectrum more brightly than any jewel; our blissful Body of Immortality is truly a Rainbow Body!”

[Comment on geezerfreak: Clearly, he has transceded his own ego. Way to go Rory!]

Thank you, Geezer! I certainly couldn’t have written that when I was
in ignorance — I was way too shy! Freedom is a lot of fun to play
with; we don’t generally feel the need to poke fun at others any more
in order to feel good about ourselves :-)
 
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…Ohh! He never took the siddhis course!  Many thanks, Jim, I’m thinking that may clarify some things. My apologies, Barry; I suspect I have been overly hard on you. Did Vaj perchance miss them too?

Suddenly a number of puzzling anomalies may be coming into much clearer focus. I think I’ve been sitting in the wrong class! :-)

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[Comment on starting his own religion]

What for? Does the world need yet another religion? I’ve always found them to be rather constricting, personally, when we start taking poetry for Gospel :-)

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That’s very aptly put, Jim; I *do* see the “Rorian Tradition” as being
a rather complex work of art I created, a self-portrait in essence. As
such, I didn’t expect or desire it to appeal to everyone, though it’s
always nice to be appreciated by a thoughtful critic :-)

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It’s out of date in that I haven’t added much to it since 1997, and my
autobiography stops at 1990.

In general I now value simplicity and ordinariness more than I do the
complex and celestial, so I haven’t been moved to add much to either
the papers or my autobiography (though it might be fun someday to bring it up to our move to Iowa and the IA course).

I regard the “Rorian Tradition” as a complex work of art that was a
*lot* of fun to create, and I hope others enjoy it and are inspired by
it as I was, but that’s it.
 
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…I’m saying that it is a work of art that I found enjoyable, stimulating, and inspiring to play with when I conceived it.

…The Initiations were essentially automatic; as I described in the
autobiography, they seemed to align very closely with Saturn’s
transits. They do not particularly interest me at this time; that
model is an old work of art; my current focus is elsewhere.

…That model is an old work of art; my current interests lie elsewhere :-)

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Actually, I have no opinion on whether these [past lives] are “mine” or not, or anymore “mine” than anything else — I feel in essence that all
memories, all personality-forms, are available to anyone, and if appropriate we can access them for greater understanding and healing of whatever we are working on at the moment :-)

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As Geezer has reminded me, 30 years approximates one complete cycle of Saturn, or IIRC one full span of ascending and descending Initiations in the old “Rorian Tradition”  (and which, according to my old “Rules of the Game,” are ongoing whether we choose to consciously appreciate them and learn from them or not).

Coincidence? Probably! But then, what isn’t? :-)

It’s good to be back in Fairfield, however briefly!

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[Comment on re-reading explaination of ascending/descending initiations]

I really wouldn’t bother, if I were me. It’s just another game :-)

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Under the right conditions levitation, dematerialization, etc. IME are possible, and have been experienced by a number of us simultaneously. IME it wasn’t astral or subtle-body projection, and it felt quite physical and real. On what level(s) of reality it took place I couldn’t tell you, but its effect was to fuse previously-differentiated understandings of matter and spirit into ONE. As Barry says, this kind of experience is viceral and *intense* and IME took many years to fully assimilate.

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I don’t know, Richard; maybe you didn’t read my autobiography
thoroughly enough, or I wasn’t clear enough in my account. Either
way, here it was: http://artesmagicae.com/auto6d.htm

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*lol* If you are willing to concede that the entire physical reality
is on the suggestion, then, yes, absolutely :-)

…I couldn’t tell you what Maharishi’s “bum hopping” accomplishes, as I
really don’t know how to ascribe cause and effect in this instance,
or even in my life as a whole :-)

…People are *expert* at maintaining their own blind-spots and realities, that much I do know :-)

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http://www.firethegrid.com/eng/home-fr-eng.htm

MANY thanks, Robert, for providing this link! This woman is simple and
brilliant; I highly recommend watching this :-)

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I was actually referring to more of her [Shelley Yates] message than the simple one-time “fire the grid” event though. I sat up and took
notice because I saw her site right after thinking deeply about our “ascension,” and about Steven Greer’s message re consciously
contacting our ET-Selves and raising our vibration, etc., and noticed this was essentially her experience and message, very powerfully put. I especially liked the guidance she got from the divine (my term, not hers) on consciously walking Earth as a spiritual being:

1) Do no harm, beginning with yourself;
2) Do everything that you do with honesty and integrity;
3) Find your human joy and be thankful for the opportunity.

Words to live by!

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…The funny thing is, stranger and lovelier things than that [levitation; stopping heart] are happening all around us and within us even now, to see and to be, if we merely take the time to open up to them by raising our vibratory level with gratitude and appreciation … :-)

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Point of clarification… — I never met Frederick Lenz and have
no opinion on whether or how he levitated etc.

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143425

If I have still been unclear, I restate: in my autobiography I wrote
about our personal experiences of levitation, dematerialization etc.;
I have never met Frederick Lenz or any of his students, and so hold
no opinion specifically on Frederick Lenz’s experiences or on those
witnessing his experiences :-)

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Greetings, Billy Jim! No, not particularly representative, as to the
bickering and so on — there is so much Heart now in FF, which has
really flowered into overflowing Love & Laughter over these past few
years — a true Siddhapura. I feel *incredibly* blessed to be here
among so many wise and wonderful radiant beings at this point in time.

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(The opinions given above are only my perceptions of the people I
have met here, and are not meant to represent their perceptions, let
alone the perceptions of those I haven’t met here. Still, there
appears to be a general consensus that FF has warmed up into much
more love and tolerance over this last decade, between “townies”
and “rus” as well as among the various factions of “rus”. I and
others are noticing much more respect for each each others’ paths,
much more warmth — many attribute this to the visits of the Mother
Saints. I have no opinion on the probable cause(s)…)

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Yes, empty!  I completely share your newfound deep respect for those
original teachings of TM. For many years after “Awakening” part of me
was subtly kicking myself for having spent so many years using a path
to ignore the Self-evident Indescribable, even though it had
obviously all been perfect, but over the last 3-4 years I’ve come to
see what a phenomenal complacency and self-sufficient arrogance I
have imbibed with “Brahman” — and that *all* the unfoldments since
then have been simple continuations of those same original teachings
of transcendence (TM) and manifestation (sidhis), all the inevitable
flow of grace of the Self to the Self.

On the basis of knowing them as my Self, my appreciation of MMY and
Guru Dev are finally perhaps approaching some infinitesimal part of
the infinite devotion they have always deserved. It so much fun being
the particle, the creature, the student, for from here we can really
appreciate the divine unboundedness of our simple ordinary self, the
creator, the guru!

:-)

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…on our travels lately all over the U.S., Canada, and the U.K. we have been finding exactly the same thing [love, no stress, etc.]. The difference seems to be that I’m finding the qualities are considerably more “concentrated” or “alive” in Fairfield; more people seem to be more consciously participating in more intensities of the love and joy :-)

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…I am well aware there are many on Earth who are suffering, and suffering intensely. On the physical plane, I signed petitions, did my best to wake people up to the manipulations around
9/11, and demonstrated against the war in Iraq, as I’m sure you did too. On the spiritual plane, it is all bliss. I just got my finger nearly bitten off by our dog. The wound was a gift for which I am
immensely grateful, it is all very very good, and was a great joy connecting with the people in the emergency room, doctors, etc.. Not in the same ballpark as losing one’s legs, of course, but you get my drift. It will be even nicer when more people are consciously aware of this utter bliss in every “thing” … I am glad you’re doing your part.

:-)

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…it’s all about our framing. As I said to the doctor, who was wondering why I was so happy as he was scrubbing the wound, “It’s just another *thing*; it’s really all only the radiant self, which we put different labels on and react accordingly…..if we don’t like our labels, why not change them?” He closed his eyes, went into stillness and said, “Done!” A very cool dude :-)

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…Let me make a prediction:

Whatever he says will bother you :-)

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…Let me make a further prediction:

Whatever he says will bother you, *and* that you will deny being
bothered, masking your pain as “humor” :-) (Hope I’m wrong though)

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…That is why I hope I’m wrong: Because I know I’m talking to
one of my own particles, and though I have done so in the past (when
I didn’t understand my own simple nature as well as I do now), in
this moment I’m not laughing at it; I feel its pain, infinitesimal as
it is, as it thrashes around denying our emptiful nature, misunderstanding it and thinking that because I sustain uncountable trillions of particles, that I cannot care about each one of Us.

What we failed to remember and take into account was that most of our uncountable trillions did not experiment with forgetfulness, rebellion, and separation (or if we remembered, it only added to our guilt and rage and sense of separation) — but they consciously maintained the harmony of the primordial song, to ground and heal and remind the rest of us who chose the path of temporary blindness/deafness, when the time came to remember this was a dream, and to return home enriched and enriching with our new understandings and experiences and stories of self.

That’s when we see that it is and always has been Perfect :-)

………………………………………

…and of course, I can hear you saying, “But that too is just
another story!” To which I will reply, “And so is that!” And so on…

The bottom line is, I love you — always have, always will :-)

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YES — I greatly enjoyed Robinson’s book, as well as everything
Frances Yates wrote — including, also, Theatre of the World,
Shakespeare’s Last Plays: A New Approach, and Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition.

Haven’t read Stevenson yet; thanks for the recommendation :-)

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Sometime after building my “immortal body” with all its magical
correspondences, I read Yates’ Art of Memory and noticed some
interesting resonances between those old systems and my own — which was indeed a system of memory/creation — as well as my “Initiations” and those of Freemasonry. I am looking forward to reading Stevenson!

My apologies to all for posting more than 5 times/day lately; I’m going
to be away from the computer for the next few days, so it should all
even out :-)

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Enlightenment consists first of isolating the Purusha, and from this
place of invincibility, fully embracing Prakriti as yet another
manifestation of the radiant Self :-)

…Enlightenment finds its culmination in the realization that samsara
is also not other than the perfect Self, as the two are now finally
understood to be one in an all-consuming blaze of divine Love.

[Comment on:…being ‘one’ with a ‘hideous duality’]

It’s only hideous when it’s separate. Embracing the ‘demonic’ reveals
it to be divine — to be be an infinitely fuller, richer, sweeter,
lovelier manifestation of the radiant self, the ‘missing half’ so to
speak :-)

…we realize that “Absolute” and “Relative” are artificial distinctions, temporary reductions of something infinitely greater than either or both :-)

…I suspect one who knows where to look can find it [unification] anywhere and everywhere :-)

…maybe truth is different in different states of consciousness….? :-)

…*lol* By me, Y*E*S. But it is attained *through* whole-heartedly embracing what is here and now, seeing it to be what IS.
 
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…I was specifically referring to a moment when the Purusha is fully
isolated, and at this moment by contrast the entire creation, all of
Prakriti, appears to be “demonic” — i.e., not-Self, a dark-matter “prison” of  hideous horror — and it is at this moment that one’s old training in embracing and transmuting the demonic comes to the fore, giving us the courage to embrace this too. And at this moment, all the old fairy tales hint at the truth — embracing the hideous hell-hag transmutes her into the most radiant beauty, and as divine Goddess She offers us Her Sovereignty; the entire Creation becomes our body in a mergence of infinite Love.

And as the Giant might say, HA, HOU, HUM! (*A*U*M*)

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…And I was referring to when the universe, as a whole,
ultimately dissolves into or merges with the fire of infinite Love
into the deep self — call that Shiva, Guru Dev, MMY, Ramana
Maharshi, “Me”, or whoever — all the same Self, and taking place
moment by moment, if and when we are ready to accept it and be cremated into it :-)

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Why do you assume we lose Knowledge? What reversion back into
ignorance are you sepaking of? From here, all I see is more and more
knowledge being gained, continually. Sometimes as particles we take
our focus off of certain dimensions to explore others more fully, but
that hardly qualifies as ignorance, does it?

:-)

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Adolf Hitler, like every other particle, gathered a great deal of
knowledge for Us, for which we’re grateful …. in this case, what happens when certain energies of fear, hatred, separation and scapegoating are invoked on a massive scale; what happens when one starts to believe one’s own press, and so on. In some ways, like his modern-day political imitators, he already *was* unconscious, even while on earth. Nonetheless he (and they) have gathered a great deal of knowledge for Us. Everything, even “ignorance”, yields us ever more knowledge :-)

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FWIW I still support my original premise: If we criticise another
(particularly if the other isn’t even present, and we’re criticising
them to a 3rd party), we generally *are* coming from a place of pain
(hurt/anger), whether or not we are consciously aware of it at that
moment. This is because we are “shoulding” all over them :-) —
expecting them to be other than they are, and judging them for not
living up to our expectations of what they “should” be or do. All of
this stems from the core belief and illusion that what we are
criticising is outside of ourself — a position that is fraught with
addictive pain. Practicing a little Byron-Katiesque Inquiry will soon
sober us up and show us otherwise :-)

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*lol* Do what you want, of course — I don’t expect you to do
otherwise! What you choose to do is entirely your business; I am
enjoying you and your life just as it is.

And if I occasionally feel like clarifying a point and maybe in the
process offering a loving hand to some particles of myself who are
still suffering under the painful delusion that they are separate,
alone and unloved, that’s my business and also just as it is :-)

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Has that been your experience with her Inquiry? [Byron Katie as Neo-Advaitin] It certainly hasn’t been mine. :-)

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I am recommending that one be aware of where the criticism is coming
from — that one place attention on the core expectations behind the
criticisms, and thereby to discover the illusory and projective
nature of one’s thinking, and of one’s pain. The result IME is
generally a tremendous expansion of heart, of compassion, of
consciousness as we reabsorb that “demonic” which we had projected
outside ourselves and condemned.

…the desire is to be free from pain, and this is one technique to
unravel pain’s illusory slipknot.

…the end result IME is most certainly not merely intellectual. I live a visceral life, and would not be satisfied with nor recommend mere intellectual masturbation :-)

…it’s a realization one is in pain (or in my terms, projecting
monsters “out there”), and a decent method to see through and embrace the illusion — to meet and conquer the challenge offered by that particular “bardo demon”.

…It’s a recognition of pain, and an Inquiry to heal it. The technique
is a great deal like transcendence itself, as it allows us to reverse
the process of manifestation/projection by tracing the thoughts
consciously inward to their source, recognizing their fallacies, and
remembering the truth — in a deeply satisfyingly visceral, sensory
way.

…it merely provides a tool for recognizing and piercing the source of our pain.

OTOH my current understanding of moodmaking is in no way
condemnatory, as all the states of consciousness look much like moods
to me. From where I stand, we have a choice as to our primary “mood”
or “frequency,” which colors what interpretations we wish to ascribe
to the myriads of incoming data, and this choice in turn actually
determines which of the data we imbibe and manifest through our
various levels of bodymind and thence into our environment. I do
realize for many of us however that this initial choice
of “frequency” is as yet unconscious.

…It’s not a question of “trying not to be judgmental;” it’s a question
of destroying one’s pain.

…Then you are reading me wrong, as appears often to be the case. I see no problem with Self kicking Self in the nuts if that is what is required. :-)

…Try it and see for yourself, or keep on spinning rationalizations why
Not to try it, it makes no difference to me. I’m still gonna kick you in the nuts every time I see you on crack waving a pistol around — metaphorically speaking of course :-)

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…Whether an asshole actually exists or not is impossible for me to say.
I am rejecting that my suffering has an external reality, yes. If that makes me somehow “falling into polarities,” then so be it :-)

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…Yes! I LOVE the mirror-like quality of FFL, like Life cubed, as Self reflects Self to Self….next it’ll be *my* turn to use the infinite-recursion argument!

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…Right, you didn’t offer me that marvelous image to play with — but
you *did* (in my reality anyhow) offer me your pain, which was all I really wanted. To whatever degree You and I are separate, my heartfelt thanks to You :-)

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…I generally attempt to take responsibility for my perceptions *of* the other, without ascribing specific attributes *to* the other (though sometimes I fail of course), as it’s usually evident that my perceptions of the other are simply the qualities of myself I choose to see in this moment.

This is *not* to say however that my perceptions aren’t also “true” —
  or at least shared by others, which may be our basic criterion of
objective as opposed to subjective reality. However, as I mentioned
to Steve, I really can’t say if an “asshole” has any real existence —
  the only reality I am prepared to affirm whole-heartedly is the self-evident, radiant indescribable one, as that one keeps appearing when the other perceptions un-slip-knot themselves. There is then no separation.

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a) I have continually held that inquiry is not a substitute for
activity or inactivity, it is merely a way to unravel one’s
suffering. Hard as it may be to believe, one will still perform
correct action even if one is not suffering! :-)

b) I did not realize anything through neo-advaita; I woke up on my
own after 9 years of TM (and the grace of a few teachers and non-
teachers presenting the mahavakyas at precisely the right moment),
realizing that all the states of consciousness I had perceived
through TM were transient, bound by space-time, and I didn’t even
want them or any other external criteria; I now wholeheartedly
desired, and was willing to surrender into, only perfection Now.
That’s when I hit bottom and turned inside out as Self realized that
Self and only Self has always been all there is, here and now :-)

c) Some 23 years later I read Byron Katie and saw her genius in
providing a dirt-simple technique to allow *all* the mind’s old
programs, all our old particles, to catch up with and surrender into
the Self. If I could change anything, I would give myself Byron
Katie’s technique 23 years earlier :-)

d) I have neither paid for nor charged for any courses, healing, etc.
for over a decade. Money is lovely and abundant, as freely enjoyable
as oxygen :-)

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…In no way am I “far beyond” you, trin — you have maturity,
clarity, depth, wisdom and experience I can never hope to equal, and
that’s just fine by me. I’m only sorry I haven’t expressed my awe and
appreciation of you sufficiently before; I guess I thought you knew :-)

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In some cases, I think these qualities [oddness] may have represented “bardo-demons” that some of these people were wrestling with, for awhile. In the deeper sense, yes, these are mostly qualities of the universal self that the personality may have had a hard time accepting nonjudgmentally.

…and even when through whatever technique or grace we see through the filters, we still see the self — albeit now in its innocence as That: self-evident, predominantly radiant, blissful, love itself, etc.

…and really to me it’s all essentially irrelevant *except* as a
means to self-diagnose and unravel one’s own suffering. And that
approach itself is apparently not going to be particularly meaningful
to all people at all times in their lives :-)

………………………………………

It’s *always* fair, if someone is antagonistically criticising me,
whether or not I immediately recognize it, for surely somewhere
in “me” are the qualities they complain of. Conversely, it’s always
(in the deepest sense) unfair, if I’m antagonistically criticising
another, as again, the root-cause of my discontent is always in “me” :-)

………………………………………

Actually, Curtis, I do not generally place you in any category of
seriously “resisting me/self/enlightenment” as I don’t generally feel
any heavy resistance from you — I almost always find you to be very
open, thoughtful, and heartfilled — all anyone could ask, and more.

Moreover, a small degree of resistance itself is often stimulating,
the grain of sand that grows the pearl. That’s why I find myself
often preferring FFL to other more homogeneous spiritual groups — a
bit of challenge is fun — vive la difference! :-)

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Basically, as I understand it, one does “the work” on oneself in areas
in which one feels pain or suffering, as these are signs of incorrect
thinking or thinking “not in alignment with nature;” there is no need
to examine ideas that don’t hurt :-)

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I’d say it’s [enlightenment] not even an “experience” in the conventional meaning; more an Understanding that finally frees one
from bondage to all experience — hence, not really something that can fade away or get lost, like the glimpses of higher states we used to value so :-)

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I’d suggest these [broad philosophical questions] are essentially a waste of time *unless* they’re areas you’re personally feeling particular pain and suffering in. I would (if asked) further suggest working first on the areas in which I feel the *most* suffering, in this moment, if any

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…I said, “essentially a waste of time *unless* they’re areas you’re
personally feeling particular pain and suffering in,” the object
being to realize one’s eternal liberation from bondage and suffering.
If you’re not interested in liberation from suffering in this moment,
of course, then feel free to inquire about whatever floats your boat,
but it would be a mistake to equate that with “the work” :-)

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Yes, no doubt the Buddha was mistaken — after all, he didn’t know
you — if he did, he would doubtless agree with you that doing TM and
then strolling around the mall and  seeing “Transformers” is better
for you in this moment.  :-)

Actually, I’m quite serious about this: I am certainly not going to
try to push “the work” or anything else down your throat! It’s your
life, until it isn’t :-)

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[broad philosophical questions are a waste of time] For anyone actually seeking to unravel their suffering :-)

…I’ve generally seen it applied to one’s areas of suffering, which to me makes a lot of sense. YMMV.

…Doesn’t it [diversity] already have trillions upon trillions [heads]? Or is that just McDonald’s?

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www.thework.com

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It’s my understanding of “the work” based on my reading and working
with her first book, on watching her practice it on video, and on my
own practice. I’ve seen and found the inquiry to be highly effective
on working with some actual portion of ourselves which is actually
suffering in this moment, is actually believing it “should” be
different than it is in this moment, and for me that’s what it’s all
about — liberating those particles of myself who haven’t yet
realized I AM THAT, YOU ARE THAT, ALL THIS IS THAT and THAT IS ALL
THERE IS. It’s all about tending to any particles of ourselves who are “shoulding” in this moment.

For example, in thinking about our discussion earlier this morning, I
notice there is a particle of me in discomfort, and on listening I
hear a very tiny thought, “He should listen to me.” Now *I* know full
well that this is ridiculous, of course, but the *particle* doesn’t
know that in this moment; the particle is suffering from an old
program. So I pay attention to the particle, engage the particle in
the work, and don’t quit until that particle remembers its original
bliss, its original freedom. And since my consciousness is constantly
collapsing into these particles, and manifesting my physical reality
through these particles, now *I* am bathed in bliss, in utter
freedom, and my physical world has regained its paradaisical state of
radiant Being. It’s all about “teaching the devas” :-)

………………………………………

[feeling of discomfort] reveals a particle which I hadn’t noticed before :-)

…Which *it* perceives as suffering :-)

…[do “the work”] until *it* knows it is free, knows its nature as tangible bliss

…and thereby manifests my sensorium as radiant being/love/bliss

…No doubt :-) But then, you still think enlightenment is an experience — not that you care about enlightenment, of course — and
that we think we are great for realizing it’s not, although we’re
probably just moodmaking anyway, and that we expect you to worship us
and take our word for it. Did I get that right? :-)

*L*L*L*

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…Wok on, Jimmie Dean!

:-)

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*I* am “free of stress and beyond such things” as you term it,
because *I* do not exist as such, I am merely the indefinable,
ungraspable Self, but  not all of “my” bodymind know that it is free
(though by far the majority do, or do know they are freely
participating in my harmony) — portions still believe in spacetime,
separation, and so on. Call it leshavidya if you like; basically it’s
simply those beings in my universe who still believe they’re
suffering.

…I’m an Evangelist; I like to spread the Good News; it tickles; as Self-pleasuring it’s my form of masturbation :-)

[Comment on:…Why is “It” not enlightened if you are?]
It was running on old beliefs or old memory; spacetime being what is,
the progressive dissolution into Now actually unfolds in its own good
time among my particles :-)

[Comment on:…particles in “freedom” and “tangible bliss”]
It’s the way they’ve always been, once we realize we’re superimposing illusions on them, and relax :-)

…I only know that for me, physical pain is becoming more and more obviously both negligible on the one hand, and on the other, actual physical bliss, as I relax more and more into Being the simple and natural frequencies of gratitude, compassion, love, release, etc., and more and more of my body becomes “eaten” by and transmuted into passionate Love and Light and Bliss :-)

…I perceive it *is*. The other [perceiving what should be] is more and more obviously an infinitesimal illusion, but one which it behooves us to attend to and unravel … what else have we got to do? :-)

[Comment on:…why change the way the “particles” feel?]

Because I love them/me, and I don’t like to see/feel anyone suffering
needlessly, when it’s so simple to show them how to unravel, relax,
and remind Us of our true nature :-)

…The one thing about my Awakening was, although ocurring in spacetime, it is clearly beyond it; it is Self-evident, eternal, fundamental, and intensely, sensorily paradoxical — ordinary and special; concrete and transcendental, spirit and matter, lively and still, inner and outer, evident and not-evident: *no story fits; no story captures THAT* — *I* can’t capture THAT; I can only *be* THAT — all and none of the above: the Self appreciating THAT as Itself, as all that is, and absolute emptifulness — the only “experience” that is non-experience, instantly removing all my seeker’s doubt by its very nature or non-nature, by its very liberating spiritual-physical totality as Self-recognition.

No experience I had had of C.C., G.C., or U.C. — rich and fulfilling
as they were — could ever remove all doubt, could ever be “final,”
could ever be this, as they were ephemeral, and bound by specific
criteria. This Awakening realizes itself by understanding *it is not
bound by criteria* — and thus is eternal, unbound by spacetime
itself. As long as we are holding siddhis, or witnessing, or
*anything* up as a yardstick to measure our Awakening, we will remain unAwake. “Loving what IS” awakens Us, opens our Heart and guts enough to envelop creation, to see Ourself.

*After* Awakening, it is quite natural to spontaneously stretch our
wings, to see how Nature clings to our desires (or how our desires
are Nature’s) and how quickly she miraculously fulfills them. But to
use these “siddhis” as a yardstick to measure our actual Awakening —
no. Puts the cart before the horse, enables us to remain in bondage
:-)

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I might be even more fun if you also admit that *I* am also an infitesimal particle of You; it works both ways :-)

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[Comment on:…Everything reflects everything else]

YES YES YES!

I LOVE YOU! :-) :-) :-)

And also … because Wholeness is continually collapsing into
point(s), It gets to experience the *effect* (as a point) of its own
*cause* (as Wholeness), and the *divinity* (from the viewpoint of the
point, looking at Wholeness) of its own *humanity* (from the
viewpoint of Wholeness, looking at point), und so weiter! :-)

*L*L*L*

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Again, I am not a Neo-Advaitin, or a Buddhist, or a Christian, or a
Hindu, or a Wiccan, though there are elements of all of these that I
have found to be helpful in self-discovery and self-description.  In
working with my particles, I am enlightening every Being in my
universe, as I suspect the so-called “Neo-Advaitin” BK is also doing.

FWIW my Universe — my bodymind — happily and miraculously supports and fulfills my every desire, generally almost before I realize I have the desire. I like BK’s stuff, but I did not Awaken with it (though many of my particles have); when I Awakened, THAT which Awoke named itself Brahman, and Buddha, and the Crucifixion, for THAT was the death of the Witness into the great immensity.

As “Brahman” I am the “Cosmic Consciousness” of my particles, and when Brahman discovers its ability to collapse into and relate with its particles, it enlivens “Krishna/Karttikeya” and then I am the “God Consciousness” or “Avatar” of my particles. When Wholeness discovers that I can “eat” my particles in the all-consuming fire of blissful love, it enlivens “Shiva/Vishnu” and then I am the “Unity Consciousness” of my particles.

All a story or a map of course, but as True as I can speak it in this
moment :-)

I LOVE the image of Indra’s Net, for its infinitely harmonious and self-
reflecting nature nicely captures the Being/Love aspects of Indra, whom we consider to be the original Vishnu. As we consider Rudra to be the original Shiva, our Sanskrit name would probably be “Indraprem Brahmajyoti Rudraananda” — “the Being/Love of Indra (Vishnu), the Consciousness/Light of Brahma(n), the Bliss/Laughter of Rudra (Shiva),” this making up the whole of the Hiranyagarbha or Sat-chit-ananda torus.
Or, for short,

*L*L*L*

or, traditionally, *A*U*M*

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[Comment on:…Bindu: Pinnacle of the Three Streams]

It certainly bears a lot of resemblance anyhow to what I’ve been calling the “particle,” into which wholeness collapses, and which in turn we “eat” and, as the particle, are “eaten” :-)

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It appears you are using “special” in a different sense than I have
been. Those guys *all* sound special to me, but then I think it’s
pretty obvious everybody and everything is special if you give them
half a chance. And by the same token, everybody and everything is
also utterly ordinary. The kind of “special” Mr. Crumb appears to be,
to certain fans, I wouldn’t wish on anyone — but of course, that too is perfect :-)

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…I have found as long as “I” am claiming C.C., G.C., or U.C.,
and “Brahman” has not yet claimed “me,” I am not fully liberated, and
am still attached or bound to experience.

Along these same lines, when you were asking about how we fall into
ignorance, I find that consciousness *constantly* collapses into the
particle, to experience the effect of our causative and innocent
thought as a created being, to enter into the world of our own
making. If the consciousness *believes* the particle-experience, or
is caught in a given belief, it identifies with the concreteness of
the effect and forgets the subtle simplicity of its own cause; it
finds the bindu to be binding, and experiences the ignorance of the
particle, or more accurately the particle’s ignorance of the freedom
of ourself, of That-Self.

When we remember “Oh, yes, this particle-experience is not me; it is
only one infinitesimal particle in the emptiful, Indefinable,
Ungraspable That-Self,” then Brahman remembers itself, and acts as
the “Cosmic Consciousness” of the particle — and so on, as described
earlier :-)
 
………………………………………

…once free, always free; we are no longer fully identifying
with the particle, or with ourselves as effect. And yes, the senses
*are* harnessed by Brahman. Experience, the Universe, is now bound
and surrounded by us, instead of vice-versa. I was just trying to
describe the mechanics of how Brahman supports ignorance as well as
enlightenment, or how we constantly recapitulate incarnation into
spacetime and transcendence through manifesting and enlightening our
particles *lol*

…This is why I say, “as Brahman I am the Cosmic Consciousness of my
particle(s),” instead of “I am in C.C.,” and “as Krishna/Karttikeya I
am the God Consciousness of my particle(s),” instead of “I am in
G.C.,” and so on — I am not in ignorance or C.C. or G.C. or
whatever; my particles may temporarily believe they are. The states
of consciousness are in Us, we are not fully contained in any of
them :-)

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There is or can be a total collapse, as Krishna/Karttikeya begins to be
enlivened, but not one in which the wholeness or consciousness is
*lost* in the collapse — rather one in which the bliss and love are
actually *intensified* to infinity by being “compressed,” as THAT takes
on the localized but still infinite *charm* and *personality* of Godhead :-)

………………………………………

…Ahh, OK, yes, Jim! I appreciate now your use of the word “concentrates” — really a beautiful word there, both literally and figuratively :-)

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…the particle finds meaning only in THAT, and in turn THAT finds meaning only in the particle — both in a sense “needing” each other for maximum Life, or for a current of attention/Love to flow and give a sense of purpose, learning, expansion, joy, and so on … :-)

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 YES, from yet another angle/angel — very nicely put :-)

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I think this [expanded consciousness from a drug being maintained]
may be due to states of consciousness’ being temporarily
attained via external means, rather than fully understood in terms of the Self, which is beyond the various states. I have noticed
enhancements of love, forgiveness, compassion, morality etc. as a result of more and more of my particles’ dissolving into us — my “play” is quite serious :-) — so that *I* am pleased with me even if you may not be, as you intimate below :-)

…If it’s transient, it’s still binding, still a “state of consciousness” — when it’s no longer transient it is unmistakeable, essentially self-evident freedom eternally, across all states of consciousness :-)
 
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…To clarify, by “pleased with me” I mean “pleased (beyond words) with my bodymind,” which is to say, with the Universe I uphold — which also includes my understanding of You :-)

…it is imperative to find and follow your own path, of course, and to be true to your own goals — how else can Self unfold itSelf to itSelf? :-)

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…Au contraire, mon frere — it [CC, GC and UC being transitory states] is my direct experience :-)

…If there is an “I” who is “in U.C.,” it is very definitely a transitional state, with more (or less) to follow! :-)

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IME, “ignorance,” “C.C.,” “G.C.,” “U.C.” — any “state of consciousness” is transitory, because it’s claimed by a particle still believing itself to be “in” the Universe, subject to space and time and experience; only That which is the culmination of “U.C.,” Brahman recognizing itSelf, is permanent, because it has always been here, just as it is, and the “I-particle” eventually gets tired of superimposing difference, distinction, intellect, upon That and surrenders into the utter perfection of what is, what has always been, what will always be.

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